User talk:Bukkit

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Circular, barely literate nonsense that isn't going to change anything at all. Move on; that's the only option that will get you somewhere in life. For better or worse qualitipedia.cf is the only option available and if you don't like it then that is it.

You've been guilty on how I edit TS&E wiki.

Not Bukkit, but what do you mean?

Let me back on that wiki.

On what wiki?

TS&E!

That wiki is not reopening. If anything it might be revived on qualitipedia.cf, but for now, it is gone, and it is not coming back here on Miraheze.

It's gotta! You're having doomed users.

It won't. If you really want to contribute to TSEW, then wait for it to be moved to qualitipedia.cf.

Please return it.

Return what?

My chance to edit there.

You'll have your chance to edit again when the wiki is revived on qualitipedia.cf.

That might ruin the old way of how it goes.

1. It won't. It will be fairly similar.
2. Regardless, it's better than nothing.

About too hard to happen.

What do you mean?

Not such a good idea.

How come?

This hasn't been made better. https://terribletvshows.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Cleveland_Show

1. The page is now at The Cleveland Show (season 1).
2. You'll be able to improve it when the wiki is revived on qualitipedia.cf.

That change is to infernal to happen.

What do you mean?

The block log was updated, so there is no need to continue this.

They don't work, and should be [[w:Wikipedia:Competence is required|CIR]] and [[w:Wikipedia:Wikibreak|wikibreak]].

Yeah, realized that after blocking, might do tomorrow.

 Done by DarkMatterMan4500.

Qualitipedia has so many problems like biased content, dramas, its users losing interest due to aforementioned issues, and shitload of disruptive editing and vandalism, socking and LTAs coming from this network that warrants a closure of the network in order to save Miraheze itself.

I want to say something about this RfC. There are way more supports than opposes, and as it turns out, this RfC has become successful. Would you please close this RfC deciding Qualitipedia's fate?

It will close by September 27

We already requested steward intervention. Just because I'm not involved doesn't always mean I will close an RfC. I'll do it when I'm comfortable and when needed.

Okay then, Bukkit.

RIP QP (2013-2022)

Yep, these wikis are better off closed as there are irreversibly toxic (to the point it damaged Miraheze's reputation), therefore I moved on to other things like contributing to fanon stuffs (which by the way, serves similar purposes to fake collab blogs on QP wikis) and fun blog posts like this

But does it mean non-QP reception wikis are being closed?

the original person who asked the question is banned, rendering this pointless

1. Are you actually planning on hosting the wikis independently? FatBurn0000 said you were. If so, you should install the extensions used on these wikis. Here are what the URLs for the new wikis should be:
   • meta.qualitipedia.org or just qualitipedia.org (for this wiki)
   • crappygames.qualitipedia.org
   • awesomegames.qualitipedia.org
   • awfulmovies.qualitipedia.org
   • greatestmovies.qualitipedia.org
   • terribleshowsandepisodes.qualitipedia.org
   • bestshowsandepisodes.qualitipedia.org
   • dreadfulliterature.qualitipedia.org
   • magnificentliterature.qualitipedia.org
2. Are these wikis set to close by a specific date, since someone said the wikis would close yesterday, though obviously that didn't happen.

I've given up on the wiki plan given the work to prepare it and the expenses are too much for what it's worth, and I apologize.

They said that they might host the wikis locally, to be exact. I'm not really sure what they mean by locally to be honest. I apologise for that, though I do believe they may be planning on doing something.

Ok

Let's wait a bit, although only Bukkit knows this. However, one thing is for sure, when this new Qualitipedia is created, the staff will look completely different.

HMMMMM I WONDER WHO SAID THIS ONCE

SOMEONE WHO STARTS WITH R AND ENDS WITH AIDARR

I think I know who you’re talking about, is it RNikocado Avocadoaidarr?

my main suspicion was actually Rpenguinz0aidarr or RCr1tikalaidarr

I think its Rpyrocynicalaidarr

Also you forgot to unblock me on the other eight wikis.

This is the third time I've had to say this. Hosting QP independently isn't as simple as you guys seem to think. The money we'd need for the servers and domain name wouldn't be worth it and the servers would take too much effort to maintain.

Well we need to keep these wikis. If not for our children, if not for our children’s children, then for any fan of cinema, television, gaming, and/or literature who wants to know what pieces of media are good and what pieces of media are bad.

our children?

Well assuming any of us have children.

Reviewers like YouTubers, blogs, and even certain websites such as IMDb and Metacritic exists.

As I've said before, I think Qualitipedia is necessary because it comes to a full conclusion and puts all the reception together.

Exactly!

Quick question: Do you think the Earth will explode if QP closes?

Lol no, but the world may never be the same. Even though QP is so small, it could be so much more. It could be the future of entertainment.

bluba, if i eat an apple then technically the world won't be the same too, that apple will be digested by my stomach acids. it's that meaningless to use the "the world won't be the same" argument.

If I touch my arm, the world won’t be the same. The skin cells that were at the surface when I touched it will die and be replaced by new ones.

These wikis can be so much more than just eating an apple or touching your arm though. They can be the future of entertainment.

And how is that?

Because they can be a guide about what to do and what not to do in terms of entertainment.

I don't know about the "future of entertainment," but they do definitely have a relevant purpose, and although most people don't consider it this way, to me, it is an important part of the world of reception.

Yeah, you bet. I’m getting quite the entertainment from seeing your stupidity.

So what you mean is that in the future, people shouldn't have their own opinions. That's "progressive" I must say.

No, I am saying we should tell people what media is good and what media is bad. These wikis are also an encyclopedia of how various pieces of media are received and why they are received that way.

I would not put it as "tell people what's good and what's bad," I would put it as "document and explain reception of media." The former honestly still sounds like opinion disrespecting.

That's a better way to put it.

Regardless of how you feel about the idea of reception wikis, that is not their intention.

FreezingTNT's initial idea behind the rebrand was to change the future of entertainment by telling people what to do and what not to do in terms of media.

Then by that logic the purpose of an opinion wouldn’t matter at all.

This is a site telling people why a certain piece of media is received the way it is. These wikis are also more centralized than any reviewers of blog posts, because these wikis are an amalgamation of all of reception.

Even if it’s not their intention, some people on these wikis still treat opinions like facts, even going as far as to say that positive reviews shown on a DVD cover are false advertising.

Still, that's something we can improve on.

Damn bro you got the whole squad laughing.

I really don't think our "children" (which you claim you won't have) will grow up to take after us and be interested in these wikis.

If I had children, I would tell them about the wikis.

Also, again, I thought you said you weren't going to have children since you were asexual.

I am asexual, this comment is just if I were to have children.

I bet you’d also ground them for not contributing to the wikis every day.

It is Bukkit who is planning on doing something with the wikis. We don't know what they're going to do, let alone how they're going to do it.

Ok.

First my wife got pregnant

Then I got cancer

So I said to this kid Jesse that I taught chemistry

Cook meth with me

We need an RV

We got an RV

What I didn't know then is that he got the RV from his dead fat friend

Who would then get shot by a little ass kid

Who would later get shot in the exact same spot

Prolly Gus gave the order

But that began a ripple

That would get gus killed by a mexican cripple

Cuz I posend a kid and got him sick

And is it weird that the one black guy I knew sells chicken?

What is this for?

I have been hearing completely differing ideas on what Qualitipedia is supposed to be.

Either it's a serious bastion of knowledge that tells everyone what to do and not to do and should be believed, preserved, taken as gospel and loved, or it's not serious at all, all for fun, only showing the reception, and shouldn't be taken seriously.

Choose one.

It is the first one.

That's the problem. You say this, but a lot of other users say the latter. And if you new admins/mods/continued users are all going to be working on the same idea, you're going to have to come to some sort of agreement, otherwise the whole thing will collapse. The basis of a wiki is what it's goal and overall purpose is. It's the foundations of what it stands on. If you all can't collectively come to a conclusion on whether Qualitipedia should be taken seriously or not, then how can you possibly manage the wiki? How can you build it on two completely opposing ideas?

To be specific, as FatBurn0000 said above, this is a wiki to document and explain the reception of certain types of media.

Please see my comment on this, as I think it is more specific, and should be agreeable.

I saw your comment.

These wikis should be taken seriously though.

I said they could be in a way. They should not be seen as a joke or anything that's not taken seriously, but they usually shouldn't be viewed as factual when it comes to pointers, as the pointers are not facts, they are popular opinions. They have potential to be trusted as a source that collects all reception and explains as much about it as possible, but their statements in the pointers are not intended to be facts and we are not trying to say they are "the right opinion" or anything like that.

Exactly. I feel like that should be specified on the front page of the wiki, kind of like ScumBob Wiki and Anti-ScumBob Wiki used to do. And I have used the wikis as a source for reception.

I wouldn't say either are completely accurate, it's closer to the second one, but to be exact, it documents and explains reception. It's not based on facts, but reception, and it uses reception to explain those things. It is mainly fun but it does have a somewhat encyclopedic purpose, and can be taken seriously in a way.

Maybe make the wikis showcases the features and critiques of certain media. and in my opinion, I think the wikis could have simply referred as "Good and bad Entertainment Wikis" (G&BEW for short), due to the name "reception wikis" is not being always accurate to reception...

Reception wikis not always being accurate to reception is a problem that needs to be fixed, not something that means they need to be rebranded. Although some exceptions can be necessary, most pages should be accurate to reception.

Resolver forgot to add a topic summary, but I suppose there's no point in continuing this discussion.

Why do they still need automoderated and autopatrolled rights? They're retired, they shouldn't need anything.

Marxo's still leaving occasional comments and potentially RfC votes at some point. They should need those rights. Besides, it doesn't hurt anyone to let a trusted albeit inactive user have rights for their edits to be automatically moderated.

^

Okay, fair enough.

Closed as  Done. I'd like to note that appeals should be made on Meta-Wiki on my talk page (if not blocked) or on IRC/Discord (IRC is Bongo-Cat and Discord is SelfCloak#9401) or proxy a message through the stewards e-mail (stewards[at]miraheze.org) once appeals are allowed. I would like to stress that sockpuppetry is not tolerated and will both reset the appeal timer and will be reported to Stewards for further investigation. For the users, don't w:WP:GRAVEDANCE, this will be treated as Uncivil behavior and will result in a warning or a block, depending on the offense.

@Blubabluba9990 is clearly disruptive (comparable to a disgruntled shooting a glue at the train and obsessed with piloting aircraft), as shown on multiple indefinite blocks on various wikis per Special:CentralAuth/Blubabluba9990, the frivolous RfCs and blog posts as well as general incompetence, and it shows his unhealthy obsession to reception wikis.

what's the point of comparing him with such a weird and specific thing

Metaphor, I keep this thread open just in case if Bluba's disruptive behavior continues

It would be pointless since Qualitipedia will be closing in 4 days anyway.

I am not agreeing with bluba, but it is pointless because QP is closing soon anyway

Also, they should be given a warning first.

He's been given tons of warning and he's ignored them and annoyed so many users.

Nah. There's been plenty of warnings and expressions of dissatisfaction.

Dragging feet is just wasting time on a case as clear cut as this.

Well still, I've given them some advice, and there's still only four days left, so it is kind of pointless.

He can stir a lot of shit within 24 hours. Case in point is already made. Let it go in peace, I say.

Even if he doesn't need to be blocked here, he sure as hell needs to banned from Miraheze given his hypothesis on the upcoming "backlash", and it's not anyone else's fault.

The part about protests outside Miraheze HQ I will admit was exaggerated but I would not be surprised if that were to happen.

It's based on the UK. I doubt couch potatoes honestly have the audacity to fly over there.

It's not going to happen. Qualitipedia is not important enough for that to happen.

It is that important for many people. Even if it doesn't happen, what I am saying is I wouldn't be surprised if it does end up happening.

It's not. I don't know how to explain how it's not, but it literally is not worth making a riot over. Just think about it. Qualitipedia isn't as big, strong, good and important as you think it is.

It is all four of those things. It is important for the future of the world of reception. Hopefully users don't riot over it though.

I would try to explain why it's not, and why there's a 0% chance there will be a riot so you should stop hoping, but what's the point? I'll never change your mind. I could write response after response, with undisputable facts, but you will still think the same thing at the end. Is this your argument strategy? Repeat the same point and ignore or never take in any arguments until everyone gets exhausted and drops out, then consider yourself the winner?

Well, I'm trying to get them to stop, but I suppose if they don't stop, maybe they should be blocked from Qualitipedia, not sure about Miraheze though.

I think that ( if required ), he should only be banned from QP. I don’t think he should be banned from Mirahaze in general unless the situation heavily escalates. Right now, he just needs to touch some grass.

( the definition of “ heavily escalates “ in this sentence is stalking, doxxing, etc. )

I would not stalk or doxx anyone in this instance. I am against the closure of Qualitipedia itself and hold no personal grudges against any of the supporters.

Bluba has been blocked multiple times, given more than enough warnings. I'm comfortable to block him, but I'd like to hear what @Zangler has to say.

None of those blocks were fair or justified.

You for sure have my approval to block him.

Blocking me is pontless since the wikis will shut down in 3 days and I have done nothing wrong. All I am saying is that I like Qualitipedia and don't want it to shut down. Nothing in Qualitipedia's rules says that I can't like Qualitipedia. That would be an absurd rule.

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