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Can we give the Reception Wikis to the creators of Bad Webcomics Wiki?

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Summary by Money12123

The wikis are staying closed.

CJWorldGame32125 (talkcontribs)

Hi Quadpedia. The Discord server has been rebranded, and that's cool (even though it will take me a long time to get used to). Everything is going fine. A few hours ago, someone asked why we can't give the wikis to the creators of Bad Webcomics Wiki. His reasons are

  1. The work there is pretty professional and rather than writing pointers, the write like blogs or websites like IGN and GameSpot or even the earliest revisions of Plumbers Don't Wear Ties (as pointed out by Theresnoname).
  2. Bias close to non-existent. Sure, some pages will mention stuff like SJW but they keep that minimum because the main focus is criticizing the product and not being politically biased (like QP with SJWs).

I agree with this idea. And your opinions guys?

CJWorldGame32125 (talkcontribs)

I forgot to mention one thing: Carl Filip also agrees with this idea.

Money12123 (talkcontribs)
  1. How do we know that they want that?
  2. Bukkit is already planning on moving these wikis elsewhere, so we don't need to give them to anyone for right now.
CJWorldGame32125 (talkcontribs)

Discord exists, dude.

Money12123 (talkcontribs)

What do you mean?

CJWorldGame32125 (talkcontribs)

We talked about this in the Discord server, FatBurn.

Money12123 (talkcontribs)

Who is "we"?

CJWorldGame32125 (talkcontribs)

retrogamer999, Carl Filip, Theresnoname and me.

CJWorldGame32125 (talkcontribs)

Although Theresnoname disagrees with this idea.

Money12123 (talkcontribs)

Three people, none of which are staff, having an agreement about something does not mean there is clear consensus to do this.

CJWorldGame32125 (talkcontribs)

That's why i asked if you guys agree or not with this idea.

Money12123 (talkcontribs)

Then what was the point of your comment in the first place?

CJWorldGame32125 (talkcontribs)

The comment where i explained the reasons or Carl Filip's opinion?

Money12123 (talkcontribs)

The comment where you said "Discord exists, dude."

CJWorldGame32125 (talkcontribs)

What i meant is that you didn't know who and where it was said, that's why i said that.

Money12123 (talkcontribs)

Yes, but what relevance does that have to the comments I made?

CJWorldGame32125 (talkcontribs)

That's a good question. I can't awnser that. You defeated me.

Anti-Van Program confusion

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Summary by Money12123

These wikis are closed now.

UnboundBeartic (talkcontribs)

Hi, I'm UnboundBeartic. I've been a viewer of Qualitipedia for a long time. Today I decided to make an account and join Miraheze.org and Qualitipedia. However this is my very fist and only account on Miraheze. I'm hoping that I'll become a legitimate unlocked user in the near future. I hear that Qualitipedia has a strict Anti-Van program that requires users to wait before editing. How exactly does this work. Could you help me since your an Admin? If your unlocked on Qualitipedia are you unlocked on all of it's wikis or do you have to get them unlocked separately?

Tali64³ (talkcontribs)

I'm not an admin, but I think you'll be unlocked automatically when moderators approve 10 of your edits on a Qualitipedia wiki. It only applies to that wiki, however.

Money12123 (talkcontribs)

Bukkit removed moderation.

Tali64³ (talkcontribs)

Note that moderation is only disabled for this wiki. It still applies for the other wikis in Qualitipedia (I think).

UnboundBeartic (talkcontribs)

How often do the admins approve edits that are pending approval.

Money12123 (talkcontribs)

I would presume as much as they can, but that may not be a lot.

Appealing my ban from the Discord server.

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Summary by Money12123

Appears to be resolved.

Portrock1566 (talkcontribs)

Originally I wanted to do it after the RfC ends regardless of the results but my patience has ran out. Given how I already apologized here I'd like my ban from the Discord server to be lifted (but not on the Wikis; I don't intend to crawl back to them ever). I want to reunite with my old friends and hangout on the soon-to-be lounge there after made peace with the network.

Dragonite (talkcontribs)

As one of the mods of the Discord server myself, I'm going to discuss with other staff members about this.

Moisty (talkcontribs)

@Portrock1566Add Moisty#5936 on Discord and we’ll discuss it.

I'm back (but not for long).

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Summary by Money12123

It's pretty clear that the community has agreed to forgive them, and the wikis are now closed.

Portrock1566 (talkcontribs)

Hi, it's me. Y'know, the guy that attempted to instigate an uprising against the Wikis a year ago? I've decided to come here in light of recent events. While I still don't like the Wikis or most of the userbase (particularly admins, with King Dice being the exception) I'd like to apologize for that incident after the hatebase has been given a somewhat bad name by Elijah, the funnimanes, DeviantArt, etc. If you guys decide to go apeshit or block me, that's fine, just remember that I've chilled out and would like to negotiate civilly.

Yonydesk (talkcontribs)

mfw the QP closure RfC is so impactful it's bringing back some of QP's old users and "traitors"

Blubabluba9990 (talkcontribs)

Well, to be fair, the RfC literally regards the fate of Qualitipedia itself, and is thus the most impactful RfC possible on the Reception Wikis. Of course old users will come back to cast their votes.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

I forgive you, Portrock. Besides, I actually did my best to stay out of the drama between SephSpace and Qualitipedia. Luckily for you, I am a kind of person that would be willing to give others a second chance.

Summary by Money12123

Doubt we'll ever find the answer, if you find evidence, add it to pages on Reception Wikis Wiki.

Theresnoname (talkcontribs)

Who first coined the term "reception wikis"?

Money12123 (talkcontribs)

That's probably something that happened on the Fandom era that we'll probably never find out about.

I actually had some Requests for Comments planned in store.

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Summary by Money12123

SuperStreetKombat is retired, the wikis are closed, the people on PRWs RFC was withdrawn, and the website wiki RFC has been created twice and its second RFC is still going.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

And those are individually about banning franchise pages, reopening the Websites Wikis, and renaming Terrible Shows & Episodes Wiki and Best Shows & Episodes Wiki to Terrible TV Shows Wiki and Best TV Shows Wiki respectively.

Should I still open up each of the RfCs or should I just back out of them since Qualitipedia might close soon?

Blad (talkcontribs)

Do it while you still can.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Thanks for the advice, and all, but with the closing QP RfC still being very much active, I dunno if my 3 RfCs will get very much attention.

Money12123 (talkcontribs)

Why should we rename the show & episode wikis? They are fine how they are.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Well, technically, both of those wikis are primarily about shows when they were first created, and episodes were (and should be) a secondary subject like companies and channels, similar to how companies and consoles are secondary on both of the Games Wikis.

Money12123 (talkcontribs)

Both the web series and episodes were part of the wikis back in the day, in fact, they even had all kinds of YouTube content back then.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

You haven't adressed the other 2 RfCs, by the way.

Zangler (talkcontribs)

Do you really think people have a problem with everything you do? Sounds like very low self-esteem and terrible need of attention if I'm being honest.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Uh... who are you talking to?

Zangler (talkcontribs)

To you. FatBurn doesn't have and doesn't need to have an opinion on the other RfCs and you don't have to force him to do that.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Who said I was forcing him (which I'm not)? I just wanted to hear his opinions on the other 2 RfCs, that's all. I'm not being forceful.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Oh-kay... that was a very bizarre (and false) accusation.

Raidarr (talkcontribs)

Well the website wikis actually reopening is subject to conditions that everyone is ignoring, and for as long as they do it's not going to happen.

Pretty soon I'm tempted to put them to the axe permanently since that is showing no signs of changing.

Blubabluba9990 (talkcontribs)

I am opposed to all three of these:

  1. No, we are not banning franchise pages. There is no reason to ban them.
  2. No, we are not opening the website wikis. Those wikis were inactive, and Raidarr just said he is planning to axe them.
  3. Absoultely not! Putting the rebrand aside, the wikis discuss web series in addition to TV shows. If anything they should be renamed to Terrible Shows Wiki and Best Shows Wiki.
SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)
  1. The reason why I think franchise pages should go is because they kinda defeat the purpose of giving each installment in a series a seperate page. Other wikis outside of Miraheze do that, so why not these ones? If I remember right, franchise pages were banned at one point during the early Miraheze days after the Reception Wikis left FANDOM. I even suggested adding franchise pages only to Crappy Games Wiki, but people somehow misunderstood and allowed them on ALL wikis, and I've regretted that suggestion since.
  2. The Characters Wikis were once closed but then reopened as seperate wikis that aren't part of Qualitipedia, so I kinda thought the same should happen with the Websited Wikis.
  3. That... doesn't sound like a bad idea for a rename of those wikis, I'll give you that.
Zangler (talkcontribs)

That 3rd point is ABSOULTELY the most based thing you have ever said Bluba!

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Oh, and I forgot to mention another RfC I wanted to make, and that is to re-allow individual pages on the positive Reception Wikis.

What happens if you get banned from qualitipedia?

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Summary by Money12123

Question has been answered, and Qualitipedia is now closed.

Teddythedev0 (talkcontribs)

Do you automatically get banned from the wiki's associated with it?

Zangler (talkcontribs)

I think what you meant by getting banned from Qualitipedia is being locally (and of course indefinitely, if I interpreted the question correctly) blocked from Qualitipedia Meta (the wiki where you added this talk topic).

The answer is no. Even if our list of wikis are indeed associated, this isn't part of the literal design of Miraheze (as far as I know), it's just an imaginary association. However, getting blocked indefinitely from a Qualitiedia wiki might result in a chain reaction of admins manually blocking you across the rest of the associated wikis.

Raidarr (talkcontribs)

Depends on why.

Money12123 (talkcontribs)

Admins have cross-wiki blocked users in the past for any reason, but they are trying to stop doing that.

What happened to the templates

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Summary by Money12123

Qualitipedia is closed, so they won't come back.

Teddythedev0 (talkcontribs)

Please explain.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

What templates?

Raidarr (talkcontribs)

Please explain (what you mean).

Category suggestion for all wikis

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Summary by Money12123

Qualitipedia is now closed.

DeadPixel (talkcontribs)

I think the negative wikis should have a category for media that was liked by critics, but hated by fans. We should also have vice versa on the positive wikis.

Money12123 (talkcontribs)

Personally, I find the whole reception group of "fans" questionable. Wouldn't fans be technically critics or part of the audience (usually the latter)? I don't really see why "fans" has to be a separate group.

Raidarr (talkcontribs)

Fan/general reception can sometimes clearly and wildly diverge from the opinions of professional critics. Hence a distinction exists.

Money12123 (talkcontribs)

Yes, but what about audiences?

Raidarr (talkcontribs)

What about them? Sounds like another term for unprofessional critics, public/popular reception... or (and I admit the term is a bit limited, probably why you're trying to make the distinction) fan reception.

Money12123 (talkcontribs)

TBH I'm not 100% sure but I believe it refers to YouTubers (with some exceptions as some are officially listed as critics) and online users on review websites.

Blubabluba9990 (talkcontribs)

I am creating this in a discussion since blog posts now require moderation. Anyway I have an idea for a logo. It is an idea I have had for a while. The logo will be shaped like a four-pointed compass rose:

  • The green color for the game wikis will be on the top, since they were the first wikis
  • The red color for the literature wikis will be on the bottom, since they are the newest wikis.
  • The orange color for the movie wikis will be on the left side, since Hollywood is located on the west side of the United States
  • The blue color for the show and episode wikis will be on the right side since that is the only space left.
  • In the middle will be a gray circle with the wiki's abbreviation in the middle (for the network as a whole, the grey circle will have a Q in the middle, which can be used for non-wiki specific purposes, such as the logo for the Qualitipedia discord server).
  • There will be four points to the compass, and each point will be divided in half for both wikis. On one specific wiki, one of the halves of the wiki's color will be filled in, and the others will be in a faded version of each of the wikis color's, and the wiki's abbreviation will be in the center. On the central wiki, all of the colors will be filled in. The left halves and bottom halves will be for the negative wikis and the right halves and top halves will be for the positive wikis.

It is kind of hard to describe, and I have a better picture in my head of what the logo will look like rather than what I described. Since I am not a very good artist, I will invite one of you to design it.

Raidarr (talkcontribs)

This is actually rather neat, and worth seeing a proof of concept for.