Look at the discussion page on BTSW. I explained why there.
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Both the Greatest and Awful Movies Wikis should have a directorial debuts category.
Couldn't you create that yourself?
Generally it's preferred for admins to create the category, as an organizational function. That is why he doesn't do it. I do concur that this would be best requested locally.
Also, why don't you say this on the AMW talk page instead of here?
This is for two wikis.
Yeah, but it still would be a conversation for the movie wikis only.
I've seen these Transformers-related pages on wikis like TTSW, AMW, and even BTSW, and 99% of them have custom headings on average pages as well as non-average/decent pages where custom headings are being added to the Redeeming/Bad Qualoties sections, which is against the rules of the Reception Wikis.
To everyone who's been adding these headings to those pages: stop. It's fine to add these heafings to the Why It Sucks/Rocks sections, but not on the Bad/Redeeming Qualities sections or the average pages on the negative wikis.
The next time this happens to a Transformers page will result in a block as well as a page protection. Thanks.
It might be best to temporarily protect the page now instead of waiting for it.
Maybe with Transformers Energon on TTSW, I'll do that, since that's the biggest victim of this problem, but the other pages seem to be all right for now.
Nobody who you want to see this and would be threatened by a block will actually see it. Notify the people who are actually causing the problem and avoid being heavy handed about a largely arbitrary rule, until they ignore it from clear notification. I wouldn't even bother protecting the page unless it's more than a few people causing the issue.
Also not to mention, I find this whole idea of blocking for such a minor thing ridiculous. There was also a rule in the global rules saying that you will get blocked just for putting blogs in categories, and it also reminds me of how Amazing YouTubers Wiki has a rule saying that you will immediately get blocked just for adding having a bad fandom or hatedom as a bad quality.
Lately my browser has been downloading random HTM files while browsing the wikis. These files are 0 kilobytes and have randomly generated names. The most recent one that my browser downloaded was titled "BEfawH53."
I've got more or less the same problem lately.
I'm currently using Firefox 103.0. Unlike in your case, however, it only asks me where to save the files and not download them immediately.
That's because I configured Firefox so that it doesn't save the file to the default folder as soon as it finishes downloading that file, but instead asks me where to save that file.
Files and Applications
Downloads
Save files to 📂️ DownloadsBrowse...
☑️ Always ask you where to save files
I suspect this boils down to a bug in Miraheze's servers or something.
Never had this experience.
same
At times, my browser, Microsoft Edge, a browser I have used the most on my laptop sometimes does that (If my hands were still wet, it does this occasionally).
I sure hope Miraheze isn’t distributing viruses here.
I don't think they are viruses, at least the fact that the files are blank.
On the 13 Reasons Why page, people keep removing the Redeeming Qualities. I've also seen it on the Sad Satan page as well. While I do agree both of these pieces of media are awful, was this ever a rule? I see people constantly reverting edits on the 13RW page.
I haven't paid attention to the latter case, but the reason I see for the former is that "it endorses suicide". For the latter I presume it's because of it being banned for containing child porn. This rule is also enforced on the Cuties and Tomorrow's Pioneers pages, and while I believe there is a mutual agreement to keep good qualities off the former, I'm unsure of the latter.
Also NGL, I think that it doesn't really matter how bad something is - a film of any kind can have redeeming qualities, no matter how bad their bad qualities are in comparison to the good ones.
I made this suggestion in the discussion section on the Awful Movies Wiki, but the staff didn't respond. I think we should rename the Disney films category to just Disney, since some of the pages in the category are about events and not films. We did the same thing with some of the company categories on the Crappy Games Wiki. I also propose that we make a category for Disney's downfall.
Sorry, dude, I didn't even know that you made such a suggestion on the wiki.
Your request is now complete.
So is that a no on creating the Disney’s downfall category?
Likely.
Couldn't we just make two separate categories: Disney films and Disney history?
I think renaming the category "Disney" is a more streamlined decision since it will cover everything related to Disney from their movies to their history.
While we’re at it, can we get rid of the companies owned by Disney category? It’s just a few subcategories that are already in the Disney category.
Custom headers have really gotten out of hand on these wikis. There are some good ones out there, but most of them just feel forced and annoying. At one point there was an RfC to ban them altogether, and it failed. But I have a better idea. We can just ban non-staff wiki users from giving the pages custom headers. And if there’s a custom header they think the page should have, they can suggest it to the staff and they can decide whether or not it’s a good header to have, just like the rule for creating new categories.
That sounds like a potentially good idea, but I can imagine enforcing it would prove to be a complete pain.
How?
A lot of users will likely ignore this rule, forcing the staff to constantly seek out and undo their edits.
Especially custom headings being used in average/decent pages or Bad/Redeeming Qualities sections in formal articles.
I'm pretty sure what he means is that it would be annoying because any time you wanted to give a creative page header you'd have to call admin. That would probably get out of hand.
I'm not really sure about only allowing staff members to add custom headings to pages, since some of us, like myself, aren't really big fans of them, and a lot of pages won't even have them.
"a lot of pages won't even have them." Having custom headers on way too many pages is part of the problem.
Okay, you do have a point, but people outside of Qualitipedia have been very critical of us for not having custom headings on our pages. Remember what happened to me on SephSpace last year?
What is Seph Space?
Abominable garbage that was run by a bunch of traitors that resorted to trollism and harassment.
Well, it was fun to visit while it lasted until things went downhill for it.
It was a private wiki comprised of ex-QP members (including admins like DuchessTheSponge) who made their own reception wiki.
And Duchess was the one who banned me from the wiki last year in June, one of the reasons being the fact that I "defended the 'no custom heading rule'" at one point.
if you were banned from there for such a pathetic and irrelevant reason then i don't think it was ever a place worthy of being praised in the first place IMO
Well, the wiki was pretty welcoming to me when I first heard about it, and I hung out there with its members for a while. Not to mention that while I was still a member of SephSpace, I tried to stay out of the drama between it and the Reception Wikis.
Originally, last year, I'd planned to retire from QP and move over to SephSpace, but Inkster (using a sock account) told Duchess to kick me out of the wiki for 3 things: those being defending the rule against custom headings, removing Nintendo from CGW's Forbidden Pages list (which I didn't do, BTW), and restoring the YouTube page on RWW, despite the site being liked by a lot, which caused me to quit Miraheze entirely.
2 weeks later, however, I returned to this site, and clarified all the things I did on the Reception Wikis, which got me back into SephSpace and I even regained its members' trust until it was closed.
TBH, I'm surprised nobody ever brings this up, despite being such a big deal, and me explaining perfectly well how it went when I first got kicked out of it.
It was a private wiki here made by an ex-user named XXSeph MySpaceXx, and that wiki mostly consisted of former Reception Wiki users who left due to drama and stuff like that.
In August of 2021, SephSpace was shut down, possibly due to having had enough of dealing with too much drama on Miraheze, and the members of it defected to another site.
Given the general attitude towards custom headings among the staff, limiting adding them to staffers would essentially be like banning them. This is why I feel mixed on the idea.
Yeah, I disagree with the idea. I can see the reasoning, but still, it's annoying.
Just FYI, I'm not saying we should allow custom headings because I like them (which I don't); it's just that, like I said before, people outside of Qualitipedia have criticized us for not allowing these types of headings, and I'm trying my best to make the image of our wikis look as good as possible.
As much as I hate how most custom headers look on pages and the fact editing wars often start over them, I'm overall mixed about this decision.
I honestly prefer to get rid of custom headers entirely. They can cause a lot of drama.
And drama will also be caused if we just outright ban custom headers. It's basically a lose-lose situation.
Drama was the same reason why it took so long for us to put Nintendo on the Crappy Games Wiki, and the RfC to give them a page on there said "...if Nintendo does get a page on this wiki, then it'll be permanent, and you'll all have to accept its placement here and no amount of complaints with remove it again." I think we should say the same thing about a custom header ban if that happens.
I would disagree with that. The Nintendo page RFC was a clear success, the two custom header RFCs weren't, and probably never will be.
I believe we've tried that twice now, and it still didn't work. I am aware there wasn't really a clear consensus but regardless, it's probably going to end in the same way, and rightfully so IMO.
One of my biggest problems with this is the way the word “prequel” is used. A prequel is a film that was released after a film from the same franchise, but takes place before the events of the previous film. For example, Star Wars episodes I-III were released after episodes IV-VI. Many people on these wikis are getting this wrong, however. For example, on the Greatest Movies Wiki, Shrek is listed as a prequel to Shrek 2. Yes, Shrek takes place before Shrek 2, but it also came out before Shrek 2. The right word to use here is “predecessor,” not “prequel.”
Another problem is that people will count the next film from the same studio as a sequel, even if it’s from a different franchise. For example, the Greatest Movies Wiki lists A Bug’s Life as a sequel to Toy Story. Just because they’re both from Pixar, doesn’t mean they’re from the same franchise.
I just think we should stop putting this stuff in the infotables. Wikipedia doesn’t do that. They either just mention the sequel in the intro paragraph or just make a whole header about sequels, prequels, and spin-offs.
I still think that it should be in the infobox because while Wikipedia doesn't do it, that's because they add a lot more information. On reception wikis, it's more beneficial to just add a part to the infobox. Otherwise though, I agree with you, and I think that the "prequel" in the infobox should be changed to "previous game" on the game wikis, "previous film" on the movie wikis and "previous book" on the literature wikis.
So then what’s wrong with just putting sequel and prequel information in the intro paragraphs?
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. In that case, yeah, we should remove it from the infobox.
They are apparently now using the abysmal new Vector 2022 skin, but they should be using the original Vector skin. Luckily I have the original Vector skin set as my default skin but I do not always browse logged in.
Bug at a Miraheze level. Fixes are pending.
This has bugging me. I think we need to make it to where pointers in regards of length should only be noted if they actually benefit or hold back the game in some way. A game that is 22 hours can be a bad thing if it's bloated and a short game can be bad if poorly paced or the developer/publisher makes the game more expensive than it should.
Games have benefit for being as short as they are. Most COD campaigns, while short, are enjoyable because of how well paced they are. The same with things like No More Heroes, Lollipop Chainsaw, Resident Evil games, etc. We shouldn't be adding pointers where the complaint is how something is only 4 hours and that's a bad thing just because. It's pretty common across both wikis and it should probably stop since, in my opinion, it hurts the quality of the pages; especially from an ousider's perspective.
I agree that length needs to be qualified and simply saying it's short isn't enough. Short by design and short for being unfinished are worlds apart as just one example.
Exactly.
I completely agree, I see this a lot on HMW, and I usually remove the pointer.