Requests for Comment/Banning pages on real people

{{ClosedRfC|Fairly successful, quite reasonable and not hard for the admins to pull off. Consider this passed at an RfC level, and it's something we've been moving toward doing anyways. Individual people are not needed. But if a user would like to pull pages off (ie, Musicismylife) please offer them the chance to do so. --Raidarr (talk) 14:56, 26 September 2021 (UTC)|I think all pages on real people, the people connected to the video game, show, movie etc. should be deleted because a lot of them are full of controversial debates, opinion expression, preaching, and are overall only there to cause trouble. They also aren't written from a neutral point of view and spread rumors about people. Take Maïmouna Doucouré for example: the page is full of all the aforementioned troubles, and there are rumors about her being a pedophile (I'm not going to get into the argument about how she portrayed the actresses in the film, but all I'll say is making a live action movie on this subject does not make someone a pedophile).

For these reasons I think we should discontinue and delete pages on creators, writers, directors, singers etc. and just focus on their works. No one is interested in hearing about their personal life; that's why we have Wikipedia. CandyLemons (talk) 20:13, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Support

 * 1)  This may put us less at risk of Content Policy violations. Marxo Grouch  (talk) 14:29, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * 2)  I may have been the one to suggest keeping people who created media, but to avoid any more CoC violations, I say to remove all of them immediately. TigerBlazer (talk) 15:47, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, people can just make pages of people they hate, so if we remove them and ban them altogether, that can be prevented. TigerBlazer (talk) 18:05, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * 1)  The author has explained everything on this subject and I strongly support it. Plus, because of these pages, our wikis will be closed for Content Policy violations. Allistayrian (talk) 16:10, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Allistayrian Not if we remove them from the wikis, and besides, we've been keeping things under wraps recently. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 16:41, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * 1)  Potential Content Policy violation, and many of the pages have repetitive reasons like the person being an SJW or not being able to take criticism. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:05, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * 2)  Just to clarify, having pages on people, even with critical content is not a policy violation. The line is drawn at potential libel regarding real world people, and general conduct and civility with regards to online personalities and Miraheze users in particular. However there are other reasons that compel me. Typically editors on QP don't draw this line well. The state of sourcing and claims makes it impractical to expect people pages would be consistently done well. If we are to focus on media receptions, we must focus away from individual people as that inherently lowers the bar. --Raidarr (talk) 21:07, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * 1) I don't want to overall ban pages on people, but I would like us to ban pages on celebrities with two careers and companies that work on two types of media. This is because we won't be able to decide which wiki they will go on. Note that being an actor in both movies and TV shows counts as two careers, because that way, we can't decide whether or not they go on the movie mh:greatestmovies:wikis, or the show and episode wikis. Negative articles on people could have gone to mh:trashycelebritieswiki:Trashy Celebrities Wiki, but that wiki violates the mh:meta:Content Policy, so those pages will have to be deleted for good. I am planning on making a wiki called Fabulous Celebrities Wiki and that's where the positive articles on celebrities can go. mh:horriblecompanies:Horrible Companies Wiki could be adopted and then we could import negative pages about companies that make two types of media there, and the positive pages about companies that make two types of media could go to a sister wiki of that wiki (one doesn't currently exist but it might soon). Musicismylife (talk) 21:24, 24 September 2021 (UTC)