Requests for Comment/Should pages on celebrities and Youtubers be allowed on the negative reception wikis.

Oppose

 * 1) No because people can add any celebrity that they hate. MarioBobFan (talk) 02:55, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 2) with a strong recommendation of closing this Request for Comment immediately: This breaks the Terms of Service and Code of Conduct of Miraheze, so allowing them will possibly get the wikis closed. Also, it will likely cause controversy for some especific people. King Dice (talk) 04:58, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * No it doesn't violate the code of conduct. The code of conduct has to do with behaviour. It doesn't really violate the terms of service or the content policy either; they only forbid pages that spread unsubstantiated insult, hate or rumours against a person or group of people. Both celebrities and YouTubers are still allowed if they don't do said things. FatBurn0000 (sandbox CentralAuth) 10:16, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) Nope, not happening at all. Zangler (talk) 11:16, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  You have got to be kidding me right now. We are not allowing pages on YouTubers or celebrities on any of the negative wikis across Qualitipedia whatsoever. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:18, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 3)  This request has been made many, many times. And every time it is made, it always snowballs. People can just make any page of someone they hate, unsourced pages can be incredibly problematic, and they overall don't add much with the theme of the wikis: to discuss why a piece of media is liked or hated. Wing Commander confed star.pngTigerBlazer  11:40, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Abstain
Overall, I'm definitely against YouTubers being allowed again on these wikis, but celebrities I will have to look into. If I decide that the pages aren't good/aren't good enough to be worth improving, I will instead. If I decide that they are good/are good enough to be worth improving, I will leave a note saying that I negative pages on celebrities with only one career (being an actor in both TV shows and movies counts as two careers, since we won't be able to decide whether or not they go on AMW or TSAEW, also being a social media star and something else only counts as one career, as having an involvement in a bigger piece of media is more relevant than being a social media star and therefore it is fair enough to put them on whatever wiki is for the bigger piece of media (ex. someone who is an actor and a social media star will go on AMW)) being allowed again, though I negative pages on celebrities with two or more careers being allowed again, since we won't be able to decide which wiki they go on, and instead think they should go on TCW. FatBurn0000 · (sandbox · CentralAuth) 10:16, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) A couple of things about this:
 * 2) YouTubers should not be allowed on negative reception wikis again. They're off-topic for all wikis except for the show & episode wikis (if they have a web series) and possibly the website wikis. However, off-topic ones should not go on TSAEW, and they will clog up RWW, so they should not be on those ones. The place I suggested for YouTubers was mh:wretchedyoutubevideos:Wretched YouTube Videos Wiki, but DarkMatterMan eventually forbade YouTubers, and [[m:User talk:DarkMatterMan4500/Archive 3#Hey|I tried to convince him that we should keep them, there should just be limited, but I was unsuccessful. As a result, I've personally given up, and I suggest you do too.
 * 3) * Celebrities are a different story. I've heard some stories about how negative pages on celebrities actually are a good idea, but they should be forbidden here because of how it was executed here - the pages did indeed spread unsubstantiated insult, hate or rumours against a person and/or group of people. If this is true, I think it's best to forget about adding them back on here and instead rewriting better pages on Trashy Celebrities Wiki. However, I will have to do some more research and look at some of the archives of the celebrity pages on these wikis.
 * Please, just please tell me this whole "Trashy Celebrities Wiki" is nothing but a satiric inside joke of the Reception Wikis community. If you think it's ok to call a dead politician from the XX's a "celebrity", while adding so many other people to a negative Reception Wiki, I sincerely tell you to touch some grass. Zangler (talk) 11:14, 28 March 2022 (UTC)